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[Theory] Location of Nibelung's Remains

source: @wormlandalice

the Nod-Krai's nail will confirm it. The Chasm was the location of the heart, similarly to other sealed underground creatures.


That would make Khaenri'ah... very close to his body. Nifelheim.


❌ = the nails


Historical Ruler of Teyvat: Nibelung was a powerful entity, often referred to as the "Dragon King," who ruled Teyvat before the arrival of humans. He is believed to be one of the ancient Dragon Sovereigns, a group of primordial beings who held dominion over the world before the Heavenly Principles (Celestia) established their rule.

Connection to the Abyss: Nibelung is said to have introduced the Abyss to Teyvat. In his desperation to challenge the Heavenly Principles during the Great War of Vengeance, he ventured beyond Teyvat and returned with forbidden knowledge from the Abyss. This act of bringing forbidden knowledge into Teyvat was a turning point, as it corrupted the natural order and led to catastrophic consequences.

The Great War of Vengeance: Nibelung led the Dragon Sovereigns in a war against the Heavenly Principles, believing the forbidden knowledge would give them the power to overthrow Celestia. However, this rebellion failed, and Nibelung was killed by the Heavenly Principles. His death marked a significant shift in Teyvat’s history, with the Heavenly Principles solidifying their dominance.

Physical Description: Nibelung is described as "gargantuan," even among other Dragon Sovereigns like Apep, Neuvillette, Xiuhcoatl, or Nibelung. He is often depicted as a dragon with great dark wings after his exposure to the Abyss, though earlier accounts (like Apep’s description) suggest he once had "scales that shine bright," indicating a lighter or more radiant appearance before his fall into the Abyss. Murals in-game, such as those in Ochkanatlan, show him as a white dragon floating above Teyvat’s three moons, further hinting at his original form.

Etymology: The name "Nibelung" is likely inspired by Richard Wagner’s opera Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring of the Nibelung), which draws from Germanic and Norse mythology. In Wagner’s work, the Nibelungs are dwarves associated with a powerful ring that can control the world, a possible parallel to Nibelung’s role in Genshin Impact as a being seeking to challenge the natural order with forbidden power.


The Role of the Celestial Nails

The Celestial Nails are crystalline pillars scattered across Teyvat, often associated with ancient ruins. They are described as having been cast down by Celestia following the Great War of Vengeance to "heal the land," but their impact often caused devastation to the mortal realm. They are known to affect the Ley Lines and purify forbidden knowledge, which aligns with their potential use against Nibelung, who brought such knowledge into Teyvat.

  • Locations of the Nails: The map in the post marks several locations where Celestial Nails are found, each corresponding to a part of Nibelung’s body:
  • The Chasm (Liyue): Suggested to be the location of Nibelung’s heart. The Chasm is home to a Celestial Nail (the Spiritstone), and its underground depths are a place where forbidden knowledge and corruption linger. The post notes that the Chasm being the "heart" aligns with its lore, as hilichurls are drawn there seeking peace, possibly due to the lingering influence of Nibelung’s remains.
  • Inazuma: The Nail here is placed in what the post labels as Nibelung’s "wing." However, a reply by @guraiuna
  • argues it should be in his bones, as wings are thin and the Nail’s placement seems more structural.
  • Sumeru: The Nail in Sumeru is tied to the desertification of the region, used to combat the forbidden knowledge accumulated by Apep, another Dragon Sovereign. This Nail’s impact created Mount Damavand and a permanent tornado in the Desert of Hadramaveth.
  • Natlan: The Basin of Unnumbered Flames may be the impact site of Natlan’s Celestial Nail, though its exact connection to Nibelung’s body is less clear in the post.
  • Mondstadt, Fontaine, and other regions: The map also marks Nails in these areas, suggesting a pattern where each Nail pins down a part of Nibelung’s body (e.g., head, wings, tail).

The Map and Nibelung’s Skeleton

The map overlays Nibelung’s skeleton onto Teyvat, with his head near Inazuma, his body stretching across Sumeru and Liyue, and his tail reaching toward Mondstadt. The red lines connect the Nails, forming a pattern that the post suggests is deliberate, indicating that Celestia systematically pinned Nibelung’s body to suppress his influence.

  • The Chasm as the Heart: The idea that the Chasm is Nibelung’s heart is compelling, as the Chasm is a place of deep corruption and forbidden knowledge, which aligns with Nibelung’s association with the Abyss. The Nail here could be stabilizing or suppressing the lingering effects of Nibelung’s forbidden knowledge.
  • Khaenri’ah’s Proximity: The post mentions that Khaenri’ah is very close to Nibelung’s body, referring to it as "Nifelheim" (a nod to Norse mythology’s realm of ice and mist). Khaenri’ah, an underground nation destroyed by Celestia, is heavily tied to the Abyss, and its proximity to Nibelung’s remains could explain its inhabitants’ exposure to forbidden knowledge.
  • Irminsul as Nibelung’s Nervous System: A reply by @Sumeru_Sevi
  • suggests that Irminsul, the great tree that governs Teyvat’s Ley Lines and memories, could be Nibelung’s nervous system. This is an intriguing idea, as Irminsul’s roots are deeply connected to the Ley Lines, which the Celestial Nails affect. @feeerdraws
  • adds that Nibelung’s remains being tied to Irminsul could explain the creation of the Gnoses, which are linked to Celestia’s control over Teyvat.

Supporting Lore and Connections

The theory ties into several pieces of Genshin Impact lore:

  • The Five Seals: The post references the legend of the Goshou Rock seals in Narukami Island (Inazuma) and the Chi of Mt. Qingce (Liyue), where five seals representing aspects of an organism (Eye, Tooth, Fin, Tail, Heart in Inazuma; Mouth, Hand, Feet, Neck, Spirit in Liyue) were used to seal away ancient creatures. This mirrors the idea of the Celestial Nails sealing Nibelung’s body, with each Nail targeting a specific part of his anatomy.
  • Celestia’s Tactics: @maisnayellow
  • ’s reply notes that Zhongli, a figure closely tied to Celestia in the past, used similar tactics of "nailing" enemies to the ground (e.g., Azhdaha, the Chi). This suggests that the Celestial Nails were a common method for Celestia to subdue powerful threats like Nibelung.
  • The Second Descender: The reply also mentions the Second Descender (likely the Heavenly Principles) helping the Primordial One (the First Descender) to defeat Nibelung, which aligns with the lore of the Great War of Vengeance.

Analysis of the Theory

This theory is both creative and plausible within the context of Genshin Impact’s lore, though it has some speculative elements:

  • Strengths:
  • Scale of Nibelung: The game explicitly describes Nibelung as "gargantuan," and the idea that his body spans Teyvat fits his status as a being larger than other Dragon Sovereigns. The map’s overlay, while speculative, aligns with the idea of his massive size.
  • Celestial Nails’ Purpose: The Nails’ role in purifying forbidden knowledge and stabilizing Teyvat makes sense as a method to suppress Nibelung’s lingering influence after his death. The Chasm’s connection to corruption and the Abyss strongly supports the idea that it could be the "heart" of Nibelung’s remains.
  • Irminsul Connection: The suggestion that Irminsul is Nibelung’s nervous system is a brilliant interpretation, as Irminsul’s role in managing Teyvat’s memories and Ley Lines could be a remnant of Nibelung’s power, co-opted by Celestia to maintain control.
  • Weaknesses:
  • Map Discrepancies: Some replies, like @tsirikorama
  • ’s, point out that the placement of the Nails doesn’t perfectly align with the map (e.g., the Chasm Nail should be more to the left). The skeletal overlay, while compelling, might be a stretch in terms of exact geography.
  • Timeline Confusion: @feeerdraws
  • raises a valid question about the timeline—when were the Nails dropped? If Nibelung was killed during the Great War of Vengeance, the Nails would have been used shortly after, but the exact sequence of events is unclear.
  • Natlan’s Exclusion from Irminsul: The Reddit post notes that Natlan isn’t connected to Irminsul, which complicates the theory that Irminsul is Nibelung’s nervous system, as Natlan still has a Celestial Nail.

Sumeru Chronicled Banner

source: @nyx banditoo (image concept)

So far, each Chronicle banner take turns rotating through each nation.


There is no set schedule yet, however, which the 1st banner being in April 2024, then long break before reappearance in February 2025, then a sudden drop at June 2025, before even a full year has passed since the last Chronicle. Is this just because of lack of interested for 1st banner?

  • 1st banner — 315 days / 10 months — 7 patches — 2nd banner.
  • 2nd banner — 126 days / 4 months — 3 patches — 3rd banner.
  • 1st banner — 441 days / 14 months — 10 patches — 3rd banner.

If 4 months / 3 patches break is the new schedule, this means the next Chronicle banner, the 4th one which will feature Sumeru cast, can fall on 22 October 2025, patch 6.1. Following this format, this means:

  • Fontaine Chronicle = 24 February 2026 — patch 6.4. (*during 6.X = Nod-Krai Chapter)
  • Natlan Chronicle = 1 July 2026 — patch 6.7.
  • Nod-Krai Chronicle = 4 November 2026 — patch 7.1. (*during 7.X = Sneznaya Chapter)
  • Sneznaya Chronicle = 10 March 2027 — patch 7.4.

(*later 8.X = Khaenri'ah Chapter)

It's an interesting prospect, when you look at the bigger picture 😗

Primogem Sources

F2P Total Per Patch = ✧10,294 primogems

✧10,294 primogems x 29 patches (Khaenri'ah Chapter) = ✧298,526 primogems.

Additional primogems for every new area unlocked ± ✧ 2,000 per area x 5 area per nation = ✧10,000 primogems x 3 nations = ✧30,000 primogems.

✧298,526 + ✧30,000 = ✧328,526 primogems.


This is minimum guaranteed, mind you. And even if you go through double hard pity on each pull, you can still secure 11 new characters from this (standard character from 50/50 lost not included).

Realistically, your drop rate overall is more likely to fall around soft pity = ✧14,400 x 1.5 pity = ✧21,600 cost per new character. ✧328,526 Ă· ✧21,600 = 15 new characters.


So basically, if you're patient enough, and we rule out Broken OP Units from this pool, you can pile on 5☆ support units from Sumeru / Fontaine / Natlan / Nod-Krai / Sneznaya / Khaenri'ah on these Chronicle banners to be even more frugal.

Meaning, you only pull for Broken OP Units from Nod-Krai / Sneznaya / Khaenri'ah during their patches. For support units, wait for the Chronicle instead. The 50/50 lost is between one 5☆ support to another 5☆ support anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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